Having now completed one full round of Mediocre Movie
Reviews, I can’t help but think about our similarities and differences in
grading philosophy. I have been trying
to gauge how most of us grade movies, and I feel that we all approach things at
a slightly different angle. This is
definitely a good thing – it’d be extremely boring if we all just gave out the
same grade. It’s fun to have divisive
movies like Machete Kills out there; the most interesting discussions have come
from the movies that divided us the most.
That being said, I was hoping each of us could briefly sum up how we
grade movies, just to give the rest of us a better idea where we’re coming from
with our grades.
Now, I know on the spreadsheet, Kissel has included his
"rubric" if you will. I’m glad that works
for him, but it feels a little too “checklist” for me personally. I have a feeling that if Kissel took a
Myers-Briggs personality test, he’d score high in the Sensing category (See: http://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/mbti-basics/sensing-or-intuition.asp). My personality type doesn’t jive with that
sort of system (I’m pretty in the middle on sensing vs. intuition, but I tend
to end up closer to the side of intuition), and I end up grading on a much more
blurry scale. That said it’s impossible
to give out a grade without having some sort of criteria. Here are some of the questions I ask myself
when formulating my final grade for a movie:
Did this movie achieve its implied objective? – This is far
and away my biggest consideration. Not
every movie is made to be a best picture nominee. If the goal of a movie is to make me think,
and it makes me think, I’ll probably give it a decent grade, regardless of my
enjoyment. Not surprisingly, this is
VERY difficult to do with comedy, as comedy is so subjective and drawn from
personal experiences. We all have those
movies that we basically say “I get it.
Someone probably finds this funny.
I’m just not one of them.” The
example that sticks out to me for this is Bad Santa. I don’t remember what grade I gave it, but it’s
an F- for me personally. I probably gave
it a higher grade because I know some people do find that crap funny, and Billy
Bob does a good job of acting in it.
Did I enjoy this movie? – Seems simple enough, but I figured
I’d point out it isn’t my chief concern when grading. As difficult as it can be, I try my damnedest
to remove my personal taste best I can.
For example, I must admit that I enjoyed The Game more than Holy Motors
while watching. However, I gave Holy
Motors a higher grade. I felt that it
was definitely a better movie, even if it didn’t necessarily enjoy the
experience. This is an issue I will
forever have with character pieces. To
me, they tend to meander.
Would I rewatch this movie? – This is a concern depending on
the type of movie. There are several
movies I absolutely love that I really don’t need to watch again. My brother has a theory that many movies only
have so many “good watches” in them.
Eventually, you just can’t be emotionally impacted by them anymore. Gladiator is maybe my favorite movie ever,
but I’m pretty confident I’ve exhausted all my “good watches.” Likewise, I still have a few in the bank for
Shawshank Redemption, and I’ve made sure to save them. Comedies and action movies need to be
rewatchable to be good. They have to
pass the “channel surfing test” that I referenced in my Machete Kills
review. The “channel surfing test” is
simple – if I were flipping channels and saw this movie on, would I stick with
it, and if so, for how long? If a Rocky
movie is on, I might stick depending on what the scene is. If The Two Towers is on, I’m almost assuredly
going to be sucked in for the duration.
Is this movie meant to be watched this way? – Let’s face it,
some movies stand on their own, while others demand an experience. I’m not talking Rocky Horror Picture Show
levels necessarily, but some movies are undeniably better to watch in a
group. Not to keep referencing it, but
Machete Kills feels like a movie that is meant to be watched with a group of
people while everyone is drinking.
Pineapple Express is meant to be watched while stoned (probably). Again, this is tough to consider, and even
tougher to simulate for the purposes of this group. I wonder what our Machete Kills reviews would
have been had we all watched it together, then reviewed on our own after the
fact.
That’s a quick summary of some of the things I consider when
reviewing. I know there are a handful of
things I do not consider while others do.
Here are two of the biggies that I’ve seen mentioned in other reviews on
here that I don’t personally ascribe to.One of the big things I do not consider that I think many of us do is time & place for older movies like Taxi Driver. I kind of understand the social climate going on, but I wasn’t watching in 1976. I watched the movie in 2014, and I want to discuss how the movie felt to me in 2014. Most people aren’t going to pick up on cultural subtleties of the movie, as they may not have that personal well of knowledge to draw from. I can only review the movie as a cultural outsider, so I’ll review it from that perspective. An older movie doesn't necessarily have to draw on its time and place to be interesting. Some movies are timeless and translate in any climate (see: The Graduate).
I also do not consider whether or not I actually remember
the plot. For the most part, people have
terrible memories when it comes to the plot of anything, especially for movies they’ve
only seen once. I cannot tell you a
great number of details from Big Fish.
However, I remember the experience and how it made me feel at the
time. If that was strong enough, then it’ll
get a higher grade from me. Many older
movies that I did not grade were movies that I watched but could not remember
for the life of me any major plot points or my own feelings. Odds are these are a bunch of B-/C+’s for me,
but it probably wouldn’t hurt to rewatch and figure it out before actually
grading.
So, with that, how does everyone else grade? Do you have a checklist method? Is it purely based on your enjoyment? Or are we all reviewing the exact same way?
I feel like mine is similar but I'd rank
ReplyDelete1- Enjoyable- I have plenty of other things that I'm putting off I could be doing instead of watching a movie that I hate. The word enjoyable is troubling though because there can be a super sad movie that isn't a "joy" to watch that can still rank high on the enjoyable meter
2- Objective- And it's a distant 2
2a- Believability- If the movie is playing it straight and I frequently say bullshit that's fucking ridiculous you lose big points see "Law Abiding Citizen" If you're spoofing or a fantasy I'll let believability slide where appropriate
3- Performances- including acting, directing, music etc Performances don't make a movie good or bad for me but can be bonus points or minus points.
Rewatch certainly helps but I don't necessarily consider whether I'd watch it again when I make my grades. Over the Top is a movie that I will almost always rewatch if it's on tv anywhere near the arm wrestling scenes but it's probably safe to say its not a great movie.
Time and place as you mention can and cannot matter. A great deal of Taxi Driver is social commentary so that is relevant for that movie.
I care more about plots than you do, I prefer to know what the movie was about when it is over.
Meant to be watched this way?- Not a factor whatsoever in the way I think about grading. That said, I haven't seen Gravity but I'm guessing I'd give it a half letter grade higher score if I watch in IMAX vs at home on my iPad.
Enjoyable probably is a bad word. Maybe a better way to put that is how absorbed I am while watching a movie. Another good, simple test is the "clock test." I know I'm into a movie if I haven't checked a clock within the first hour. I know it's great if I never even check the clock. In contrast, if I'm constantly checking how much time is left, odds are I'm not a fan. Does that clarify it?
DeleteI'll write more about this in the future, but for now, I'm curious if you guys add 'points' to a movie or take them away. I'm more optimistic, such that I start from an A+ and work my way down, if the movie keeps making mistakes. Flaws stick out more than strengths, because it's easier to explain why something didn't work for me than something that did. Criticism happens in my human brain, while emotional buy-in happens in my animal brain.
ReplyDeleteI'd like to say I start with a blank slate and grade simply based on feel of the movie. I don't start A+ and chop away for things I don't like because I don't have a checklist I'm looking for, therefore I also don't start at 0 and add grades based on meeting my arbitrary standards.
DeleteSidebar: Did anybody have Dr Faust for Management at UE? Every paper was worth 50 points and if you really looked at your paper he handed back it didn't matter how well or poorly you argued your point it was all about how many arbitrary points you included based on the reading and the lecture. If you literally had 50 disjointed sentences based on information in the chapter and discussion you got 50 points.
Anyway- I will admit to being guilty of letting my expectations for a movie influence my grading. If I want to like a movie I will talk myself into its better parts and if I think it's going to be terrible it probably needs to make me think otherwise pretty strongly.
I kind of start at an A-/A range and move on from there. And certain things will knock down or support a grade more than others. If a movie is average, I'm more likely to go C+ instead of a C. A C means nothing interesting or good, which means it just isn't a movie that should be watched. Dropping below a C means that my time wasted.
ReplyDeletePlot is possibly most important. Does something interesting happen? Is there meaning? If there is meaning, is it smacking you in the face (the Wire) or is it subtle? Either way is fine as long as it's done well. (You, Me and Everyone We Know is great example of smacking you in the face with meaning in a way that is sloppy and insulting.) Also, the world they live in needs to be established and make sense. And for the love of God, no Deus Ex Machina fixes. Wasted or extra scenes can vary in their damage to the overall film.
Acting is possibly just as important. I can't stand bad acting and bad casting. It's so damn distracting. As mentioned elsewhere, Brad Pitt in 12 Years a Slave brutalized every scene he was in. There Will be Blood has no bad acting. The less minor the character, the less I'd take off.
With both acting and plot, even if one is bad, the other can save it a bit.
There are alway arbitrary things that most often increase a movie grade. Think Pacific Rim, Gravity, or Life of Pi. Those films are so visually fantastic they deserve a higher grade. Something like Memento or Inception have these great concepts that raise them up a bit because they're unique.
Rewatchability is something that can raise a movie, though it's not a requirement for a great movie. Really, I think most of my A+'s are movies that I wouldn't watch over and over again because they're emotionally draining or taxing.
Another factor is: Is this a game changer? Meaning, did this movie change something for movies culturally and whatnot. Jurassic Park, Sopranos, Simpsons were all game changers that deserve more credit for that.
With older movies, I take that into account. It's like comparing NBA athletes from the 1970s to today's NBA players. Most of those guys probably wouldn't start if transplanted to today's game, but that doesn't mean they weren't great players. It's a bit arbitrary, but that's fine because this is a subjective exercise.
Finally, I don't need to like a film to give it a good grade. Take Curb Your Enthusiasm. Great show, but I don't enjoy it. (Girls is a poorer version of that.)